Matt gets inside 'The Necessary Few'...

As a way of introducing the new line up, Matt has posted up an interview he did with the boys recently....


Those probed were:

- GRANT CUMMERFORD the bass player & ROGER BERGODAZ the drummer.

Do you get weird if you don't play for a while?

GC: I wouldn't say weird, more like normal. When there are no gigs for a while it becomes necessary to take on a day job which involves getting up at 6am, work 7 till 4, come home, eat, veg in front of the TV, too tired and uninspired to pick up a bass, then get up and do it all again the next day. So no gigs means a normal life like most people, which I suppose is pretty weird for me.

RB: I guess I get pretty weirded out if I'm not playing gigs because it's all I do, so if I'm not playing it means I'm broke and that's no fun at all. I like playing a lot of gigs, even when it's really hectic it seems to have a calming effect on me, I guess because my mind's occupied.


What are you listening to at the moment? Best gig you've been to (or played) this year?

GC: At the moment a lot of Bob Marley, also Sly and the Family Stone. Best gig played this year would have to be the Byron Bay Blues Festival. Highlights being Bella Fleck, Ozomatli, Jeff Lang and Geoff Achison.

RB: At the moment I'm listening to a Dr John compilation that I believe Matt got me for my birthday, thanks Matt. He's (Dr John) got amazing musicians and some really cool tunes, excellent arrangements and clever part playing, highly recommended listening.

It's hard to pick a best gig of the year, they all become a bit of a blur, not a bad blur, just a blur. I know there's heaps of great moments at a lot of gigs, it's really hard to pick just one as a stand out.


Most musicians throughout their career have to make decisions in regards to what's most important to them musically. Mastering the art of actually surviving on your music without compromising your style. What's the biggest corporate/cover gig you've knocked back to pursue things more necessary to you?

GC: Actually, playing with the Necessary Few meant passing on a gig with the Buddy Holly Show, which would've been great money, but also playing the same set of Buddy Holly songs sometimes twice a day, and the first stint was a month in New Zealand. I think I made the right choice.

RB: Over the years I've knocked back loads of money gigs, mainly cover bands offering a weekly wage for exclusivity, or some band travelling to some corner of the world to play in a Hard Rock Cafe' doing 7 nights a week playing 4 sets a night, doing Billy Joel and Hotel California and Mariah Carey and so on and so forth - Yuk - same songs every night.


Anyway, I've chosen to pursue the original music thing. I may not be as financially well off, but I feel a lot more sane and content.


Who do you consider to be your peers?

GC: Pretty much anyone who plays or supports live music, whether it be punters, venue bookers, promoters, or hopeful amateur musicians. We're all in it for the same cause.

RB: It sounds pretty corny, but I guess I consider my peers to be anyone who pursues their own goals and dreams in whatever may be their chosen field. Musically it would have to be all the muso bums I've worked with over the last ten years, they're a good lot!


Grant, what's the most important element of playing the bass to you?

GC: The most important element would be to lay down a thick bed of bottom end for my associates to work with and at the same time make my part as interesting as possible.


Roger, you listen to a lot of reggae. Who are some of your favourite artists?

RB: I love my reggae, it's just so damn cool, beautiful melodies, great drum and bass parts and that skanking guitar holding it all together. You just can't go past Bob and The Wailers, I do have my excursions, but I always end up back with the Wailers.


Roger, you've spent some of your career touring with funk bands. Do you think there are more wankers in that scene than any other you've experienced?

RB: I did spend a great deal of time travelling with funk bands and soul bands, and the people I worked with were great, they'd cram a years worth of partying into a two week tour, it was insane, and the gigs would always go off too, it was a good rock 'n roll education.


From those days I've learnt the art of pacing one's self. I didn't really work with any wankers, but that early Fitzroy funk scene spawned a generation of bad funk bands who would all badmouth each other behind their backs, and because I played with a few of them, you'd hear some of the crap people would say. I just think they were insecure, and bagging someone else would help them boost their own ego's.


As far as other music scenes are concerned, I'm quite sure they've all got their wankers.


What was the name of your first band?

GC: The O.P Blues Band featuring Ray Beadle, but the first serious band was Third Degree.

RB: I think the name of my first band was Powerhouse, or was it Satisfaction Guaranteed, or was it High Tide or maybe Satan's Spawn, I'm not exactly sure.


Grant, you recently moved from Sydney to Melbourne. What do you miss about home?

GC: Schooners of Tooheys New, all my mates that I grew up with, the Harbourview Hotel (which has been 'yuppified' anyway) and yeah my family!

(Definitely not the shithouse music scene. How many people? How many gigs? SHITHOUSE!)


The Melbourne music community is very eclectic. Who's a local artist you'd like to collaborate with? Alternatively, think of any artist (preferably living) you'd like to work with.

GC: Melbourne has some great musicians. I'm still waiting for Mia Dyson to ask me to fill in for her band one night. Also Shannon Bourne from Chris Wilsons' band is one of my favourite guitarists. Steve Hesketh on keys (Simon Nugent And The Forefathers), he's a freak. Also I'd love to do a gig with john Watson on drums. He's a fucking powerhouse.


How would you describe 'The Necessary Few'?

GC: I dunno. It's somewhere between a rock band and a country band with traces of psychedelic shit....


Matt, Grant and Roger

Photo by - Denise Nestor - taken at Ruby's Bar, Belgrave Victoria




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